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with because he didn't have a lot of talk about things. he was a very straightforward and sensible -- not an intellectual. you can't imagine him as jefferson and adams do in their correspondence having discussions about the nature of grief. we are talking about plato, played with an interesting figure and why. washington wasn't that kind of intellectual. if you want someone to lead your country, that is your -- any others? i can see everyone. if you have a kind of -- [applause] >> gordon wood wrote the radicalism of the american
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recent and featured programs. >> public monuments, james kelly interviewed everyone he could find who had known abraham lincoln to create a realistic statue of the sixteenth president. james kelly never completed his lincoln sculpture but kept thousands of pages of notes. these notes were discovered in the new york historical society and edited by william styple. this event is 1 hour and 15 minutes. >> in the opening scene of gone with the wind scarlett o'hara told the twins work, work, war. either of you say that one more time i will go inside. ladies and gentlemen, the sesquicentennial of the war has begun. last month at harpers ferry was commemorated the 150th
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anniversary of john brown's raid. the official start of the national and virginia says with centennial commemoration. regretfully, unlike the centennial of 1961, there is no national committee to coordinate the observance of those four years and their lasting impact on america. two years from this very month will be the source quincentennial of lincoln's grand review at baileys crossroads in fairfax county. the event which led julia to return to weathered's hotel and awaken the early morning hours to write her in mortal battle hymn of the republic. lincoln's across reliance is the organization that has been working the past two years to commemorate president lincoln's review of 70,000 soldiers that so inspired julia ward howe.
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you are the true believers in the mystic chords of memory of the union that president lincoln referred to and in the vision of its expressed in the battle hymn of the republic. in the early 1990s a virginia state highway marker was placed on route 7 to denote president lincoln's grant review. the honor guard was under the command of captain brian quote inca of the fifth new york. a resident of bailey's crossroads at that time was the late bert chesney. refugee from world war ii europe coo had fled the ravages of europe after 1945 to come to america to start life anew. upon moving to daily's he came across information which told him the story of lincoln's grand review and the immortal battle
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hymn. house at, he thought, that thw great man, this event is lost. his widow formed lincoln that crossroads alliance to awaken virginia to its heritage of honor, lincoln's grand review and the battle hymn of the republic. tonight, we will hear from judge frank williams will deliver a few appropriate remarks about this young lawyer from the prairie state of illinois. mr. william styple will tell us about his new book "tell me of lincoln: memories of abraham lincoln, the civil war, and life in old new york". and also give us a first-person account of the grant review that he has discovered. mr doug jamieson will continue the delightful musical serenade later in the evening. we will perhaps be joined by sarah epstein who will delight
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us with the story of her great great great grandparents and how they helped mr. lincoln here as president-elect. and there's a frosting on the desert. marina may have a wonderful announcement to close the evening. allow me to briefly introduce the hon. frank williams recently retired chief justice of the rhode island supreme court who will deliver a few appropriate remarks about this magnificent young lawyer from illinois. judge frank williams hails from rhode island where he served seven years as chief justice of the rhode island supreme court. while serving in that position the president of the united states also asked chief justice william is to serve on the military commission's review panel with the rank of major general. judge williams has acknowledged to be one of the leading authorities on a life and times
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of a young perry lawyer from a little like. he served as founding chairman of the lincoln for a president of the u.s. grant association for 12 years serving as president of the lincoln group of boston and for nine years as president of the abraham lincoln association. judge williams is the author or editor of 11 books on mr. lincoln, the latest of which is lincoln lessons people and reflections on america's greatest leader, co are paired with william peterson and published by the southern illinois university press this year. judge williams is working on an annotated bibliography of all of the lincoln titles published since 1865 st. louis he should have that completed this weekend. at the same time is writing a book on lincoln as he rode. he has served on active duty with the united states army in the republic of vietnam.
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his decorations include the bronze star medal. three air medals. the army commendation medal and combat infantry badge which he is wearing in his lapel tonight and the vietnamese gallantry cross with silver star for fowler. a graduate of boston university school of law he is a master's degree in taxation which a number of us may need to night after winning a number of those awards. he is also an adjunct professor at roger williams university of law and being from the army it is difficult for me to say this, the united states naval war college in rhode island. it is a hardship because you know how bad they beat the army team every first week in december. he has listed one of america's 500 leading judges and has been married since 1966 to the former virginia elizabeth miller. i knew he had to have a southern
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connection somewhere. judge, if you will so onerous? [applause] >> thank you very much. it is an honor to be here. i don't know about the appropriate remarks. i wish i could be brief. prime minister george canning was once asked by a preacher how he enjoyed the sermon and he replied you were briefed. he said i like to avoid being tedious to which the prime minister said you were all so tedious. brevity is no guarantee of success. marie elena, you have done great job with this group. i commend you for it. for preserving our heritage and
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the legacy of your dear husband. that means a lot to all of us. i thank all of you so -- for supporting the memory of lincoln especially the noble work of mary and her late husband as we look to november 20, 1861. 2011 will be the anniversary. abraham lincoln, contrary to what did generations's foremost military historian has written in his new american civil war, is book, british military historian's great book on our civil war, lincoln did visit his armies in the field some 11 times and spent 42 days in their camps. to meet here on this historic
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site despite your wedding 52 years ago, paul and brenda, was lincoln present then too? this is the great home of the original willard where lincoln arrived on february 23rd from baltimore disguised and criticized for being disguised because there was an assassination plot that had been uncovered to kill him in baltimore when the trains transferred from one station to the other. he greeted the peace conference that was going on led by the former president, tyler. it was not successful. it couldn't be. it was too late. he revised his critical inaugural address and took some of the suggestions from his secretary of state designate who
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wanted the job as president. particularly the last two paragraphs. remember them? in your hands, my dissatisfied continent, and not in mine, is the momentous issue of civil war. the government will not a sale you. you can have no conflict without being yourselves the aggressor. you have no of registered in heaven to destroy the government. i shall have the most solemn one to preserve, protect and defend it. i am loath to close. we are not enemies but friends. we must not be enemies. passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection. domestic chords of memory stretching from every
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battlefield and patriot grave in every living heart, all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the union when again touched as surely they will be by the better angels of our nature. if there ever was an icon that stood for everything it is abraham lincoln. he is remembered for his courage and leadership, his peacefulness and compassion, his patriotism and devotion to the union and his ability to lead the nation through civil war. his role in this country's collective memory is a measurable. what we are talking about today
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is memory. no president has such a hold on our minds as abraham lincoln. he lived at the dawn of photography and his pine cone face makes a haunting picture. he was the best writer in all american politics and his words are even more powerful than his images. today's politicians continue to invoke abraham lincoln at every opportunity. take for instance president obama who took a page from lincoln's book by appointing a so-called team of rivals to his cabin. if the past is prologue for what the future holds, society can only benefit from lincoln and the lessons that his legacy teaches us. although lincoln is so revered today, this was not always the case. before his death lincoln was only a moderately popular president. there were times when lincoln
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was the object of far more hatred and love. in the election of 1860 lincoln took only 39% of the popular vote, the second lowest percentage of everyone any elected to the presidency. his popularity grew during his presidency but he still had his critics which included cyrus mccormick, inventor of the farm reaper and samuel morse, inventor of the telegraph. probably more than a million voters in the north who believed in the justice of the southern course. notwithstanding lincoln was accumulating an increasing number of supporters. today, lincoln seems to be more popular than he was immediately following his death. reflecting on that trend usa today has remarked abraham
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lincoln is hot. scholars say even he would be amused. from magazine covers to the fronts of t-shirts to book signings to museum openings, honest a is center stage. lincoln is remembered as the leader spoke the enduring words at gettysburg that students once memorized. the story of which is so splendidly told in the gettysburg gospel. the commander in chief to be united the nation by winning the civil war and the chief executive who was constantly ranked highest among all american presidents thanks in part to historians and writers. lincoln's popularity has managed to transcend time and place because lincoln is many things to different people. we know him, don't we?
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as lincoln the lawyer, lincoln the great demand to cater, lincoln a politician and president, lincoln the commander in chief. historians and lincoln scholars have written not only about lincoln in his different roles but also about lincoln's personal life, his marriage, his sexual preferences, his religion and his alleged medical and psychological problems. his greatest trial, the civil war, was the nation's greatest trial. the race problem that caused it is still with us today. his death by murder gave his life to a violent climax and allows us to play the always fascinating game of what if. abraham lincoln did great things, greater than anything done by theodore roosevelt or
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franklin delano roosevelt. he freed the slaves and saved the union. because he saved the union he was able to free the slaves. beyond this, however, our extraordinary interest in him and a steam for hymn has to do with what he said and how he said it. much of this had to do with the union. what it was and why it was worth the saving. he saved it by fighting and winning the war of course. his predecessor believed the state had no right to secede from the union but there was nothing he could do if they did. by the time lincoln took office,
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seven southern states had seceded and nothing had been done about it. led by south carolina they claimed to be doing only what they and the others had done in 1776. to oppose them might bring on the war and buchanan had no stomach for this. lincoln knew that the time had come for the only way to save the union was to go to war. but could he say so? and retain the support of the people who had voted for him? for abolitionists slavery was a sin and the slaveholders sinners but there leading spokesman, william lloyd garrison, was no friend of the union. he said the constitution was a covenant with death and an agreement with l. during the fort sumter crisis garrison said all union saving
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efforts are simply idiotic. it is not by chance that one of lincoln's best speeches was delivered on a battlefield on the occasion of dedicating a cemetery for those who fought, died and were buried there. we remember. lincoln says that the brave men living and dead who struggled on this ground, this battlefield, had consecrated it better than he or anyone else could. their cause was great and noble. we also remember lincoln saying that their work was unfinished and that we the living should highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation under god shall have a new birth of freedom and that government of the people, by the people, and for the
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people shall not perish from the earth. we remember everything he said and we remember it because he took great pains to say it beautifully. we also remember his second inaugural address, especially the concluding paragraph. the poignant beauty of it with malice toward none, charity for all, with firmness in the right as god gives us to see the write, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wills, to care to have him who have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan. to do all that may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations. six weeks later he was murdered.
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we say that a man can be known by the company he keeps. a nation, a people can be known and judged by its heroes whom it honors above all others. we pay ourselves the greatest compliment when we say that abraham lincoln is that man for us. so we celebrate the bicentennial of his birth with fanfare and reference. after 200 years he still looks good. i can only hope on my 200th birth day i look as good. in 1922, h. l. mencken was told by a publisher there are four kind of books that never under any circumstances lose money in the united states. first, detective stories. secondly, novels in which the
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hero--the heroin is forcibly debauched by the hero. volumes on spiritualism, occultism and other such claptrap. and forth, books on lincoln. times change. so do profits and losses at publishing houses. but not, apparently, talking about books about abraham lincoln. and ethical american event's 200th birth day is being marked by an inundation of new lincoln books the likes of which few of us have ever seen. between 1865, and 2009, 14,000 titles and 2,000 juvenile books on lincoln have been published. launching a new biography of lincoln in 1922, former united states senator albert j.
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beveridge denied that the last word on lincoln had already been written by arguing that the first word has not been penned. to day the first words are still being written. lincoln books emerge with ever greater frequency. one a week, as every generation seeks to discover lincoln for himself. in some ways the past two decades have been a golden age of lincoln scholarship. theodore roosevelt complained frequently that his times had denied him greatness because he could not preside during world war i. a man has to take advantage of his opportunities, he said after leaving office. but the opportunities have to come. if lincoln had lived in times of peace, no one would know his name now.
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not only have arturs continued to write about lincoln but they have managed to find new and unexplored topics on which to base their works. although the traditional themes are still discussed, modern biographers have focused increasingly on lincoln's personal life and explore the little known aspects. in recent years, this has morphed into a pseudo scholarly debunking in which we have been asked to revise, mostly in the negative, our understanding of not only his political skills and religious beliefs but also his marital relations, his sexual preferences and his racial views. there has always been a constant obsession with his health. in addition to his well-known melancholia attributed in part to the death of his mother, the death of his purported fiancee
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and interpersonal problems with his wife, mary, as well as political challenges and failures, there are also tails that lincoln suffered from constipation, an upset stomach and even syphilis. some have theorizes that he suffered from mafia syndrome, a genetic disorder carried by long limbs and fingers, typically tall stature and predisposition to melancholy cardiovascular abnormalities and sudden death. more recent reports suggest that lincoln did not suffer from it at all but from something called multiple and a creamy of pleasure syndrome tight ii. a rare condition in which several and theype ii. a rare condition in which several and the cream glands
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developed tumors. it is a wonder he lived past 30. we haven't explored his personal life. the first birth to death work for finished very soon after his death. these ratings continue very little analysis of lincoln. in stead they regard the anecdotal, focusing on individuals and their interaction with him. landmark biographers of lincoln are many. carl sandburg, 1926-1939 with his prairie years and war years. james randall, 1945-1955. benjamin thomas in 1952. stephen oates in 1977 and david macdonald in 1995 just to name five. in any case biographers can hardly shirk from inspecting
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lincoln's mind when so much of his revolutionary contribution to american life stemmed from his moral responsibilities. for its nuanced view of such key aspect of lincoln's leadership, ronald whyte jr.'s new biography has been traced -- praised expense of the. lincoln began to study law on his own. heat half the illinois bar examination such as it was in 1836 and left to worked as a lawyer in springfield. over the next few years primarily through his work -- his approach to later actions as president and the united states was grounded in his hands on experience with the law.
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lincoln lawyer gives a realistic view of what it was like to be a lawyer in illinois at this time. mark steiner in his honest calling, the law practice of abraham lincoln tells us lincoln the lawyer was busy and supported alternative dispute resolution mediation before that term was even invented. attention has also been paid to a far briefer period in lincoln's career. jack davis's lincoln's men, a primer on how lincoln evolve into commander in chief and the impact of the three month state in the militia, never forgot his military experience. and this helped him understand soldiers who served during the civil war. this is a a great companion read to james mcpherson's tried by
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war and lincoln and his admirals', both of which won the lincoln prize from the lincoln and soldiers institute at gettysburg college. .. of the district of columbia. still the record and scholarship on the 16th president are already so vast, can we expect
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some delving to bring a major revisions of the lincoln story? along with much documentary work as comstock taking of controversies of recent decades. what kind of religious person was lincoln? more than washington and jefferson who were essentially deeded. was he a racist? a pragmatist who presided over a war he did not want, but which created the conditions that allowed him to write the emancipation proclamation. was he or unlikely despite much speculation in the late 1990's. was his wife mary lincoln as horrid as the marriage has been portrayed? increasingly, clearly he asks, no and maybe. [laughter] narrowly tailored studies abound in the new literature world holds her cochaired the u.s.
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abraham lincoln bicentennial commission is winning praise for a fresh take, contact dvds between his election and did not duration. because the interregnum because holter makes a compelling case that the president-elect was no dither or between november and march, but rather shrewd and principled as he waged war to prevent southern secession. post-bicentennial publishing inevitably will slow just as it did after the night teen 60's boom around the centennial of the civil war. yet all specialists agree, every generation finds new lenses through which to view lincoln, the american president. as fred kaplan, author of the well-received lincoln biography of the writer puts it, does the book buying and book reading public have an insatiable
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appetite for lincoln? well, semi- insatiable. today's historians are more critical of our 16th president. rather than offer praise, biographers tend to expose flaws in lincoln's hair, his presidency and his accomplishments. he has been accused of abusing american civil rights and liberties, exceeding presidential powers falsely leading the country into war and causing americans to die because of the war that should've never been fought. criticism aside, authors are constantly striving to find a new book, a new way to tell lincoln story. perhaps the most intriguing of recent developments is the tendency to compare lincoln's time to modern day. historians ask him seek to answer the question, what would lincoln do if faced with the troubles that our culture is
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facing and confronting today? can we look to lincoln for guidance? what can lincoln, his mistake, in his victories teach today's leaders? what accounts for this phenomenon? the answer to me is leadership. to date there are more than 900 leadership studies programs at american colleges and universities. they study the great man theory, the belief that dominates personalities shaped the course of history. and our man continues to lead the pack. lincoln proved that the highest praise can be attained by a person of ordinary origins. cobol boric, an immigrant from hungary after the evolutionary in 1956 appropriately calls it the right to rise. the leadership with which lincoln guided this country
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during its darkest hour is the reason we are still trying to connect with him. as for the issue of civil liberties, an issue that prominently faces our country today, lincoln's actions offer some guidance in what has been called our national security state. habeas corpus, which he suspended had been important to the founders of this country, long before lincoln's time. yet, lincoln demonstrated that even though he felt it necessary to suspend the great writ he still found good use of using the writ and serving as a legal instrument to free slaves. lincoln was able to affect the bully balance these completing freedom. to understand lincoln's use of the war power and the constitution, i recommend daniel farber's lincoln in the comp to
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duchenne and brian mcginty's lincoln in the court. lincoln's leadership style is one of the greatest gifts to democracy. due to the universal nature of its ear, lincoln remains an everlasting contemporary as his life highlights the continuity of past and present. as a society, we have adapted his identity to accommodate new concerns, but not to the point where we have been gated what a previously represented. in 1893, "the new york times" ran an article entitled, three gate leaders, washington, leading untrimmed lincoln, and current. in 1985 he published an essay called getting even with lincoln. lincoln reconsidered this is the compulsion of american politicians and everyone else to square their own position with what they thought would
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lincoln's position on the matter. they were drawn to his leadership and measure their success by that which lincoln would've approved. in 1974, "time" magazine asked a number of historians, who were history's greatest leaders? lincoln's name appeared most frequently among their responses. c-span's 2009 presidential poll released this past presidents' day has abraham lincoln first as he was in the last c-span survey in 2000. and today, in 2009, 200 years after his birth, we as well as lincoln authors are still trying to connect and get right with lincoln. thank you very much. [applause]
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>> thank you very somites, george williams. hearing those insightful words brings to mind the ancient greek adage, that a person remained alive as long as their name were spoken and remembered. so in coming here tonight and in hearing those profound remarks from judge williams, we are keeping alive not only the memory of abraham lincoln, but the persona of abraham lincoln. our next week or is a gentleman from new jersey, william styple, well-known to all of us here as a profound civil war historian. he has had a lifelong interest in the american civil war during the centennial years as a young
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child he took his parents to the battlefields of virginia and instructed them in the works of bruce cotton and shelby foote, which must've led to some very interesting dinner conversations. in 1988, he has written, cowritten, and edited numerous books on the american civil war to include, andersonville diary and memoirs of charles f. hopkins a medal of honor recipient, the biography of general strong vincent who was killed in action on july 2nd at little round top. the writing and fighting the civil war series, which contains over 1000 soldier letters written from the battlefields. that takes dedication, ladies and gentlemen. at those of the blue and gray video series which shows of the war veterans including the immortal joshua chamberlain writing a magnificent white horse down the memorial day parade in 1914. in 2003, bill discovered 24
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boxes of revealing interviews with the commanding generals of the civil war, conducted by american sculptor and historian james edward kelly. some of these interviews were published in the outstanding but generals and bronze, interviewing the commanding general of the civil war. since then he has come across another series of documentary letters of interviews that james kelly conduct did with persons that had no or same lincoln. he did this in 1919 just after the great war was concluded here in this great work is concluded and "tell me of lincoln," which is absolutely enthralling. you won't feel to put it down. i would like to let a personal note. by working as a professional military historian for three decades plus, i have seen so many historians, military and
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civilian, just rehash over the same old dry leaves of history. bill is quite the contrary. he is a sherlock holmes in the field of historiography, searching out new information, bringing it to light and thereby increasing our knowledge and appreciation of our magnificent american heritage. so whenever bill speaks i listen. whenever he writes, i read it. and bill styple from new jersey. [applause] >> thank you all, thank you all for allowing me to speak here this evening. like tim just said, in 2003 i came across a collection of 24 boxes of interview notes. these notes were taken by an artist, james edward kelly, born
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in 1855, died in 1933. kelly was a historical artist for harper's weekly, scribner's monthly. but then later turned whose sculpture in new york city on 57th street. and at that time, over 40 union generals came to kelly's studio to pose for their portraits. and while kelly was an artist at -- in his art, he would not depict a button and must be documented. and imagine sitting down with general grant, what an event that would be. or sitting down with joshua lawrence chamberlain and doing their portraits and ask him any question you wanted. and that's what kelly would do. he would interview more than to the portrait. he was it done with the generals, have been speaking of event, there's the portrait, there's a painting, let's talk about that moment and he would take careful notes. one day in the future if his artwork was ever challenged as
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being inaccurate tea could produce these notes and say, well this is what general chamberlain told me about little round top for this is what general grant told me about the surrender of appomattox. so he was very careful to preserve these notes. were several years ago i worked on those 40 union generals and did the volume generals and bronze. it was also kelly's ambition to create a statue of abraham lincoln and he spent many, many years. he interviewed over 50 people that knew, saw, heard, that lincoln and only as an artist and again there's biographers, but there are artists. an artist want to depict them their way, a certain way, the more human way. and actually, kelly was working on a revolutionary war monument is in the city of new haven, connecticut called the defenders memorial. and while he was working on this statue, the committee from new haven would come to his studio in new york and inspect his
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work. one of the old gentleman that was a member of the committee was looking up the work and speaking to kelly and said, have you ever made is lincoln? he said no, no lincoln has been done before by many artists. and this gentleman said jack, but it's never been depicted correctly. i started kelly's interest. what do you mean? the artist always depict lincoln's downcast and melancholy and slouching, but the link of that i knew was upright, animated, he was an athlete. that got kelly and just did. so what kelly wrote was that that gentleman was a mr. blake from new haven and kelly said well, did you hear lincoln speak? and this was kelly's very first interview with someone who has sat with lincoln. lakewood say, yes i have heard him. i was one of the committee to receive him when he visited bridgeport on march 10, 1860.
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he was tired after his ride in the card so i took him to the sterling house and house and said they are, no one will disturb you. we then gave him a dinner at the home of mr. frederic wood of bridgewater. a wealthy citizen of that place. i remember that he -- that lincoln took up on those large bridge point oysters on the sport him a look at a, do i understand you to say that this is a single oyster? blake smiled and always remember that boisterous moment. but then he told kelly, and we should make a lincoln and the wide-open manner. he is generally represented with his head bowed, down meditating or depicted grasping his coat as if he was sick to stomach. while he was really full of animation and intensity, jocular, very often not of time, but that was released to them. he was melancholy and said he had to do it to be able to stampings. it is said that he had often talked in a manner that showed his early environment, but his
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soul was refined, refined what he was elevated. his soul is bigger than themselves, a common figure with the soul of a profit. when he spoke he seemed to rise and became transfigured with fire and vigor. i wish you to make them at the gettysburg speech, nothing better has ever been written. he could rouse the people by his power and appeal for peace and kindness to all. no hanging of the head of the other artists have depicted him, but he stood up as a man, he was an athlete and a leader. this is what kelly said from that very moment i'd 18 inspired to create lincoln and bronze, not just standing on a two thirds by two thirds, but surrounded by the men he led in trying up. so from that moment on, james edward kelly sought out anyone who could tell him of lincoln. one lady, a friend of his firm hastings-on-hudson, new york, her name was sarah hart.
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she was a little girl who grew up in illinois and she knew the lawyer lincoln. lawyer lincoln would come by on writing the circuit there. and she sat down with kelly and gave this interview. she said, the world as it's never seen a never manlike lincoln. i never saw him after he was president, but quite a few of us young people are very much interested in him and followed him when we could during his debates with douglas. he was never well address, partly because he did not have money enough. he wore homespun pantaloons made up half kotkin and half-full and they never seemed long enough. he had bluestockings and homemade shoes with laces of bucks can. i remember his shoes particularly because when we were children our father was three particular about keeping our shoelaces neatly tied in lincoln's laces were always untied. and he always wore that battered old rusty hat. his eyes were bluish gray but they seem to change with this move. when he was talking, his eyes
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were dark and seemed to light up within. but often he had a sad faraway look for which there was quite a string of melancholy and lincoln. at times, he was very quiet and would not talk and apparently didn't hear what anyone spoke to him. but at these times, his friends and those who knew him left him alone. his mouth was large and not prepossessing and his jaw and pressed strange strangers as bulldogs. i can and no one can describe the beautiful lights that would cut into his eyes and a sweet wonderful smile. he was so kind and loved soldiering and old people. i first knew lincoln when i was a little girl and he stopped at my father's cabin. we lived between springfield and pure you in each judicial district. it is circuit court and they traveled from one place to another. the state stopped at our house for water as there was not much good water in the country then. i will tell you kelly, my pet story of lincoln.
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i was playing one june day with my rag dolls than the country was sparsely settled and we had to depend on ourselves for amusement. i did few rag dolls and my favorite was mrs. cracker who was larger than the rest. the house did not from the main on a knoll where the grass looked down from the front. posted the house is a picket fence which when all the roundhouse. i'd line that mrs. crocker in the other dolls against the gate when i heard the stage warrant which was a long sound. i forgot my dolls and climbed up on the fence for the stage was quite event. the state stopped in several people got down, but i remember only too clearly what was a tall lanky fellow with a linen duster which hadn't been washed up in some time in a dirty felt hat. he was not at all well dressed. the other was very short, very well dressed man with a gold headed cane. i'd never seen a gold headed cane before and i was quite impressed. i'd forgotten mrs. crocker and while looking at the tall man when they came to the gate, mrs. crocker blocked the way.
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the short man shoved the gate opened and shoved mrs. crocker with a cane knocking her aside into the dirt. you could imagine ourselves. he. he may as well struck me as my doll and i was very angry as well as heard. but before i could rescue mrs. crocker went and picked her up, brushed her off with his bandanna handkerchief, leisurely careful in my arms and with the most wonderful smile said, nevermind blue ice, baby isn't hurt. now there's the famous photograph of lincoln, you've all seen it. lincoln taken at the brady studio, right here in washington to be not to read it on the same here at the willard. well, it was taken at brady studio by alexander gardner, but the -- or was an artist in jh untracked james h. story came to washington. he had a portrait studio up rabies, but previous you would get your photograph should also
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have your painted portrait done. story was afterwards involved in the metropolitan museum of art as a painter he knew kelly and kelly had the opportunity to sit down and interview him regarding that famous photograph. that story helped depose. the story tells kelly. there was never a man more abused and divided them again. he was called uncouth and coarse in all sorts of stories were told of him which were not true. he was not at all quartz or ross in build. his soul seemed to rise above his personality. he was full of fire. he would awaken become translated an exalted and forget himself. he indulged in no flourishes of moratorium was studied more torque while justices. he was himself nerve to gesture by the force of his own mind and the action of his soul. without giving it a thought, which gave him a lower the quality. it is wrong to represent him.
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he was alert. the photograph of lincoln i post for alexander was made on figure 23, 1861. they did was exhausted here to read and all night and the cars and had expected to be assassinated as he went to baltimore. gardner was manager from matthew and i had my studio in the same building. carter knew nothing about art and he's depose all his patrons in one way. if there was a senator, he would have been standing erect with his hands in the front of his coat and the other resting on a pillar or table. it was laughable. it uses a gardner, why don't you change your post. he would say it's good enough, they don't know the difference. but sometimes when an imported man came in, gardner would call to my studio and say old stewart is coming or old cases coming. i wish would come down and post them for me. so i would go down and arrange the post for him. when he became anthemic and it's your come and impose them. i was very much pleased at the prospect of meeting lincoln and
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hurried him. when i went and he was carelessly seated at a table waiting to be post. he did not utter a word and seemed absolutely unconscious of all that was going on around him. his appearance showed that he had been overwhelmed with fatigue, care, and excited. he wanted me to post them, posted mike screamed. now, bring the camera at once. i did not pose an arid it was so characteristic of him. as a taken messias. i saw that in this unconscious pose a great picture may be taken in at least it was one of the finest photographs of lincoln showing him seated at that little walnut table in brady studio with his tall hat placed upside down on it. another person that kelly interviewed was a corporal william tisdale. tisdale was in the 11th new york lottery, which early in the war served as lincolns bodyguard. now kelly met tisdale. tisdale was a court clerk in new
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york city and they sat down at court and have a discussion about tisdale's time with lincoln. and kelly asked him, he goes, i have tisdale about lincoln and he complained that painters and sculptors generally made him slack and downcast. i told them that i considered lincoln figure is and powerful. how did lincoln strike you, kelly asked tisdale? tisdale, he was not like he was one of natures noblemen. how did you meet them at first? it was when i captured us by. i was over at georgetown tova war department was in dispatches. when i got your 220 west street is that if you limit look at those dispatches i would give you $100. what can you write in here pointing to the land and nobody will know. and i said, i wouldn't do it for less than 200. he handed it to me and they put out my hand as i was good to get those dispatches to have but i had my revolver with me and nature it and covered him and we watched the provost marshal and i handed him over.
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he was a richmond and worked on a newspaper. he was a southern spy. lakin heard what i'd done and sent for me. yesterday where i was stationed and he said i'll point you my personal orderly and all dispatchers from michelle go through you. and then we will have one responsible had. that made me very close to him and i became like one of the family. i only worked about two or three hours a day. the rest of the time i amused myself with billy and ted breaking a pony and goats. i was always with them. i went with them everywhere. kelly asked, did you go to gettysburg with them? yes, i did not know he was going to gettysburg to last minute. i am a citizen because i used within a great deal the white house. and he said i'm a put on your uniform and come along. i thought a little bit back of him on the railroad car and of course there's a pack of them just without. he did not expect me to stand 15 paces behind him. kelly asked, did you hit the speech? gas. tell me about it. tisdale said, lincoln says to me, they expect me to make a
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speech. i'm afraid it will be very short. i'm a poor hand at making a speech. and then he said, i will read a little something and have a good laugh over it. how did he write it? erupted on the cards on a little slip of paper just as you're doing now. i thought it was merely taking down notes and when he finished he said that will be about it. was the greatest speech ever went in. actually -- i was actually inspired when i heard it. some of the copperhead tried to make fun of it. the undertaker but it wouldn't go. how did he actually delivered it? he stood there steadfastly to warhorse. he was so tall and upright. yet his hat in hand when he got through he bowed and put it on. his right hand was in his best. his hat was in his left hand. there was not much applause. there were some nice hearing and i thought at the time of the pretty big speech. he thought it was a failure. he said, i think i'll have a good deal of sport over the speech of mine. and i said, mr. president, you have said a big speech in a few words. he said, do you think so? i said yes. he said i think you.
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when you later in the white house grounds he came over to me and said you guess right about that speech. see what the papers say about it. now, another interview that kelly did actually corresponded with william's daughter, stoddard called him the first under third secretary of clinton. lived in the 1920's he lived in madison, new jersey, not far from where i live now. and kelly corresponded with hand, stoddard was ill at the time. what stoddard wrote to kelly again, kelly inquiry and getting details about lincoln's appearance and now we have this vision of lincoln. the stoddard wrote to kelly saying my dear kelly, indeed interested in your proposed lincoln sculpture. or have second criticized the sketch with some conditions. i will not say anything unpleasant concerning other
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attempts to present lincoln in stone or otherwise. someone seceded ready well. one idea seems to be generally forgotten. do not represent him as if you were half asleep or an morning. theyanan come as such a demand sitting for a photograph is sure to look as tired and sleepy as he knows how. remember that lincoln was exceptionally vigorous physically and notably outspoken and all his other incidents is never week. i've seen his his face light up as if god had kindled a bonfire behind it. he was always plain and simple and dressed, but never see the inside here to try to make his face living. make it as if he was leaning halfway across the table in his room and reading an important paper he was preparing to sign. he percolates that i can form a better opinion of it after i heard it read aloud. but in his reading, his face was all alive. and then stoddard just finishes his little note with, what i
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hope is you do not attempt a picture of the did lincoln. this photograph before me while i write today the firmness of mouth in the uprightness of the head. his neck was not limp or stooping and they do not know of any other suggestions. they did correspond back-and-forth, but stoddard died not long after and one was unable to criticize his work. lincoln and humor, there was a sergeant major, abms men in general devens division. his name was william j. critchley. critchley corresponded with kelly in regards to lincoln describing a humorous incident. and critchley writes, this is at city point in 1865, the following little incident occurred. a bottle was going on at our last. we could hear the guns but not the rifles. fitzgerald would've to headquarters. lincoln was sitting on a camp
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store nearby and the captain got off his horse, through the reigns of the horses had nsaid to mr. lincoln, your old man, hold my horse. lincoln got up and took the reins. the captain went inside the grandstand with this dispatch in a few minutes cannot, grants following him. he took the reins, through more of the horses had come in with going to mount grant said captain fitzgerald lemmie introduced the president of the united states. the dumbfounded captain jumped up on the source and disappeared. the president laughed at the joke. lincoln asked, hummus of a hustler get in the army and grant lofton invited it all comes on how we performed his services. and what did that time i do not think a bit much for the captain did not think enough to even thank me. [laughter] well, like many of us, students of lincoln, the assassination is fascinating subject. kelly interviewed six
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eyewitnesses, members of the audience that were there that evening at ford's theater. they also matched and for eyewitnesses who were at the bad died were lincoln died was dr. leo, robert lincoln, james tanner, the corporal who took the stenography notes, eyewitness testimony of these crime. and also thomas proctor. thomas proctor was one of the resident of the peterson house. and he was their lincoln's bedside. after the war was a successful lawyer he fell on some very hard times and kelly found him and did an extensive interviews. another judge, judge wesley r. batchelder from transferred, new jersey, batchelder was a secretary voyeur for general benjamin butler. the day of the assassination,
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butler had gone to go to fortress monro. batchelder was supposed to go, was delayed, had to wait for the following day and that evening he said well, i will go to the theater. while batchelder is interviewed by kelly and starts off at the beginning of his life. batchelder says i was born in 1833 and that made me 22 at the time of the assassination. i joined general butler in 1863 data porches and row before he went to washington. as secretary to general butler at the present lincoln many times. i've seen. iceni receptions, reviews, and in the street. i've series after the defeat by the enemy. he must've been depressed but he did not show it. the first time i saw lincoln was when i was sent with a message by general butler. had two letters, one an introduction and the other private letter to president lincoln. i sent a major action the messenger came out and said the president wanted to see me. he was a demand stuff, did not rise pretty never rose to anyone except general grant. lincoln had a lot of go.
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he would walk through the streets of washington. he had no guard with him. it is not like what it is now. everybody knew him and saluted as he passed and he would simply take off his hat and bow. i never saw him troops, but he did have a slight stoop and never saw combat with sorrow. he was not that kind of man. he had a kindly face, but nervy. at the many businessmen with more careworn phrase than lincoln. whether under extreme heavy business worry. on one occasion, a woman came to see them in great trouble and after listening to her lincoln said, you go down as the secretary stanton, tell him what you told me and tell them i said to attend to it and then let me know what he says. she came back in lincoln after a stanton that helped her. no, she said. what did he say as lincoln. she hesitated. lincoln insisted on her telling him. she answered, he said you were a fool. he did that lincoln. both will have a talk with him.
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they went back and lincoln took stanton aside and had a talk with him. but could not seem to bring stanton around. lincoln was full of sympathy, but stanton was a different kind of oyster. so they came back and ligon sat down and wrote a note to the man which was directly ordered to him in charge. lincoln was remarkable for neither and resentments. he was the most forgiving man. take the case of stanton, the way he did abuse link in both euphoric and after he was elected. stanton was an old-line democrats but a union man. it was terrible the way he abuse link in and get lincoln sent for him and authored in a position of secretary of war. stanton seems dr. byatt and lincoln gave him three days to decide it. kelly asked, how did you come to be at ford's theater that i? general butler had gone to fortress monroe the day before and i was to go after him but missed the boat and having nothing else to do i went to the theater. and they're the assassination took place and i was resident. it was president lincoln tower
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of triumph. all was over. the whole house was on their feet cheering as he went with a smile into the box bowing to the right, bowing to the last, principally to the left. the audience was on that side. the presidential party came in in a little late. he came to the last. residential party was right behind me. about six rows from where i sat. i did not see the presidential party after they went to the box. no one could. and that is a setback no one could see him. i did not keep going but would not have noticed that this was always strolling around the theater. we heard a shot that paid no attention to it. there was no one on stage. i saw a booth at he jumped out of the box. he put his left hand on the grill and vaulted over. his rates per capita students. the box was the student with flags aired his left foot came down first. he shouted one of the buzz was like dirt and go. he got up, with the cyber aside and said something that i did not catch what it was. he then ran across the stage and
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disappeared. there was a dead silence. the people did not know what happened. only one man had the presence of mind. he sat near the front, jumped up, ran on the stage. this had got away. the people did not know what happened. we thought the theater was on fire. they called out and rent and said be quiet. then mrs. lincoln screens and it was then pandemonium broke loose. people called out, who did it? murder. i did not see anyone but that one man get on the stage. and the people made a brush to the president stuck struggling and pushing people aside. some people calling out i am a surgeon but they could not get in as boothe had locked the door with a wooden bar he prepared that afternoon. it seemed like a half an hour and may have been for minutes before they got in. afterwards i went down and saw them carry him out. kelly then ask, am i right in saying that the last thing you saw lincoln he was smiling? gas.
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then he went to his death with a smile? gas, lincoln was shot in the back of that year. dear old man never knew what killed him. he died with a smile on his face. kelly's research on lincoln again was going to be his finest work, his lifelong work. his stream. but by the 1920's, his health started to fail. and he became sick and by early 1930's too ill to create this work of lincoln. he compiled the notes and he knew the importance of these papers. he tried to seek out some publishers like in 1931 there was a depression going on. letters of rejection are in the kelly collection for these publishers saying, nobody's interested in the civil war anymore. no one under 50 would buy this
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book. there's a depression on goodbye and good luck. so kelly stream of a statue and then also publishing his notes was forever forgotten. died in 1933, was. in an unmarked grave in the bronx in new york. and it was in 2003 doing research on another general is when i studied across kelly's writings and realized that there are important for us today to continue the study of lincoln. every anecdote, story, letter that we can find helps and even to kelly there was a hand written note in the collection. he says some of you might find these notes on lincoln trivial, but even a glimpse of one you'd love brings warmth to your heart. i will include them all. and it was again just a hand written note to us today to let
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not forget who lincoln was and let's not forget to these authors into these artists were that depicted him. now, i know we are here this evening talking about what happened 150 years ago. bailey's crossroads. kelly would also meet the common soldier at aga our parade or other reunion and he would sit down and interview. one particular soldier trooper from the first new york calvary, which the early part of the war it's hard to imagine, but the first month of the war, the federal government secretary of war decided they didn't really need volunteer calvary from the state, that the regular force would be enough. volunteer calvary is very expensive. we don't need any. so the first new york armory more or less funded themselves and came down to washington and it was very common in those
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early days of warfare regiment to take on a nickname. and they called themselves the lincoln calvary. and as they paraded through washington, lincoln and his staff came and they watched this parade of the first new york calvary. and one of the cabinet members and over and whispered, mr. lincoln, i present to you the first new york lincoln calvary. and lincoln turned to him and said, who needs that bb? [laughter] but he also took a keen interest. the first new york lincoln calvary was william h. beach nt wright than account of that review at bailey's crossroads, which are here tonight to commemorate him. okay,. that morning, early in the
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morning of november 20, in compliance with orders received the day before divided with a few friends of ammunition, russians for the day with blankets trapped the saddles, the regiment was mounted on the march on the leesburg pike. soldiers were supposed to be prepared for the execution of whatever orders might be given and not to be surprised at anything that might happen. but there was no fight that day. and in the neighbor of bailey bailey's crossroads a large area had been cleared of fences and other distractions and made suitable for extensive military maneuvers. the whole army of the potomac was there. it was estimated that there were present 25,000 or 25,000 artillery and calvary and 75,000 infantry. the men appeared in their best condition with their uniforms of dark or light blue with very distinguishing colors and bright guns of the artillery, the flashing sabers of the calvary and the long lines of infantry with their glittering bayonets with their numberless bright
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flags and guidon era these gathered hosts presented an appearance that for magnificence has never been equaled on the american continent. they recall the pictures of the great armies of dimple napoleon. a battery in the center fired its guns and this was followed by a battery on the left. seven times this was done. salute of 21 guns fired by a battery in honor of the president of the united states. the salute was followed by a mighty volume of cheers along the lines, then from the military danskin the notes, hail to the chief era and as soon as general mcclelland and president lincoln followed by a brilliant staff officers came riding along the lines. the men broke forth in cheers as proof of their devotion to him who represented the nation. the men of the regiment felt that they were especially honored and bearing his name. the entire army, by companies,
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marched in review before the president. the commanding general and thousands of visitors. the spirit of the army was at its highest and it was felt that such a vast power properly wielded could crush any force of rebellion, and he forced the rebellion muster. and so, the long winter passed in those camps for many miles covered the virginia hills. with their hundred 50,000 men they presented the greatest spectacle of that kind in our history. when they may not be seen for a century. in the spirit that animated these posts, there was a mighty significance. it was the early morning after riding through these more than quote, a hundred circling camps that julia ward howe wrote on the words that come to her as an inspiration in the silent watches of the night, the battle hymn of the republic here it mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the lord. he is trampling out the vintage
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with the grapes of rudge are stored. he has loose distasteful lightning of his terrible sword. his truth is marching on. thank you all. [applause] do you want to send you one day? a few questions. okay. do you have a question? >> bill, what is your next project that you're working on? >> the biography of general philip mccarney has long awaited and i've been working on this for a long time. the fact that i have an account of carney at that review. the first brigade of their brew a bailey's crossroads. and at the time the army of the potomac was just being born.
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but the grades, divisions, army courts, they have yet been numbered. and it wasn't until after that review it was time to start remembering these brigades. carnies brigade, the first new jersey infantry brigade was considered by mcclellan and called after the review of the first prograde, first-division, for score, because it was the finest brigade in that review. so, it's a little bit of carney right there. any other questions? >> were there any sketches made of what the statue was going to look like? >> kelly would sit down with these gentlemen. he would make a sketch of whatever they might be remembering. for instance, the gettysburg address. kelly would always ask, can you enact the pose that kelly did? you know, or that lincoln did and so kelly would do a
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thumbnail sketch of lincoln depicting the gettysburg address. another person that kelly interviewed was general permit shall write over at the arlington international cemetery. you can see his grave the relief portrait of general bright. now general bright was the commander of the sixth corps in july of 1864 when jubal earliest confederates about 14,000 of them swept across maryland and attacked washington from the north, the six army corps and local dismounted calvary enemy troops that they could muster was sent to fort stevens and i've squirm issue a spot. if you go to fort stevens today there's a marker right on the spot where lincoln stood turning that battle, right on the pair of hits they are. relief on that monument. the design is kelly, by kelly, as described by general bright
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conversing with lincoln at that moment. but unfortunately, no finished work and never got to complete his dream of creating a lincoln bronze. all right, well then thank you very much. [applause] >> our final speaker this evening is there epstein who is going to relate to wes a most wonderful story about her family and president-elect lincoln here at the willard hotel. this is one in a million and you will be so happy that you came tonight to hear this magnificent story from someone whose family
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has passed it down to her and it will now be passed on you and hopefully you will pass it onto your family in the future. >> i think i'm here because i have a dna relationship to the willard hotel. although i have a wedding relationship as well. when my husband don collins and i were married at the cosmos club, we brought our generation here for dinner after the wedding and spent our wedding night at the willard. but my story is about my great, great, great grandfather, williams r. bradley. i looked it up to make sure that three grades were the correct one. he was here at the willard visiting his granddaughter, sarah bradley willard who is married to henry willard. well it turned out when lincoln came here to stay at the willard
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hotel, before he could move into the white house, he suddenly realized he had forgotten his bedroom slippers. sarah bradley willard remember that your grandfather, who was visiting, had very large feet and approached him. indeed he had a pair of bedroom slippers and he loaned them to lincoln. and i thought you might like to see a picture of the slippers. [laughter] marie elena, this is your price for the evening. well, lincoln wore those flippers while he was visiting at the willard hotel, but when he left for the white house he returns them with a little note stating thank you for the very comfortable slippers, a lincoln. now that pair of slippers used to be in the museum of the ford museum -- i mean, of the ford
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theatre museum. and i had seen them they are last saturday i went down to the renovated new museum at the ford theater hoping to catch another glimpse of the slippers. unfortunately, they are no longer on exhibit. and so, i parked to the ranger who was there in charge that afternoon and he said, we have so many more things that we just can't possibly display everything at once. they are in storage at the moment. so at least you can see my photograph. i hope he will go down to the ford theatre museum. it's really very, very interesting this way of lincoln objects and savings and movies. it's really fun to go there. thank you all. [applause]
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>> pulitzer prize-winning author of bright shining lie has a new book out. a fierce piece in the cold war. bernard schriever, the ultimate wedding. what is a icbm? >> it is a rocket with a hydrogen bomb in its warhead. it's fired up in disgrace and travels through space and 16,000 miles an hour. 267,000 miles the men would come down on its target. it crosses and there is no way to stop it. they've never been used. the whole point -- you and i would probably not be having this conversation if it wasn't for these people.
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they built this weapon not to make war with it but as bernard schriever would say over and over again this is the first weapon of humankind which is being built not to use in war but to deter war. >> i wanted to start with what a icbm was because i think that tells the story of the icbm and the scientist to created it. do you want to tell us about bernard schriever? >> he was six years old when he came over from germany in world war i. his mother brought him here two months before we declared war on germany. he grew up in texas and went into the army air corps and it was a protége of general arnold who was the founder of the u.s. air force during world war ii. he went to work on scientific -- bringing science into the air force. he used to utilize the science and saw this weapon would guarantee the peace because if we had it, we could deter the
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russians from doing anything that would trigger a nuclear war. and then we ended up creating a nuclear stalemate here it is referred to by the nuclear people as a neutral assured destruction. in other words, neither side could get a surprise attack on the other because they would destroy themselves in the same process. >> in the book, you talk about the resistance that mr. shaver and his team had putting this together. can you talk about a bit about this resistance? >> sure, because this is not about hardware by people. there was a tremendous resistance from curtis lemay who was the head of the strategic air command, great bomber leader from world war ii who became -- who went over the edge in his later years and became the model for general who breaks dr. strangelove. and jack d. ripper with the general's name.
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and so key in the people he worked with had a tremendous resistance from the bomber people. they got to eisenhower and eisenhower understood that they were trying to do. just in time he signed off on september 13th and had his heart attack ten days later. >> how long have you been researching this book waxed >> i worked on the book for 14 years altogether with ten intensive years. i did 52 interviews with schriever and interviewed another 120 people. everybody who was alive that worked with them, chasing the grim reaper because these people were older men and i had to catch them before the grim reaper day. they all cooperated with me. schriever told everyone he worked with talk to this man and tell them the truth. he gave me all of his papers in his diary which were extremely valuable. this is not -- this book is read not as an academic history. it's written as a fast-paced
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narrative and novelistic form because i believe in re-creating history for the reader. bringing the reader into history. and that's what i do here. >> fifteen years of research is a long time. did your views on the cold war change at any point during that time? >> i realize, guests, as we all think of the cold war is one long ice age. and i discovered through writing this book that it was not. but in the beginning it was a period that was overlooked which is one of the reasons i wanted to write this book. in the beginning of the cold war it was a very warm confrontation between the soviet union and the united states with both sides jockeying for power. and if either side had missteps at that time we would've had nuclear war in the end of the northern hemisphere. because these weapons don't just destroy cities. they create ecological effects. they block out the sun. you get nuclear winter. you'd have destroyed the whole
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northern hemisphere and a war between both sides. and schriever & co. prevented that from happening. are their bernard schriever in the military right now? >> i would hope so but i would hope they are. the air force -- this man was very famous within the air force and he became the father of the modern high technological air force. even though this book is not about technology, it's about people. and when he died, there are ten of four star in the u.s. air force. none of them marched behind. his chief of staff said we're not going to bear them as a four-star general. we're going to bury him as a chief of staff. that was quite a moving occasion. >> the authors neil sheehan. the book is "a fiery peace in a cold war." thank you very much. >> thank you.
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>> several news organizations have put out their best of 2009 booklist. these lists are available online at otb.org in the news about oak section. any of the programs featured on these lists are available to watch online. simply use the search function at the top of our home page to find such titles as portly i-india. lords of finance, columbine, pulitzer prize winner, the good soldiers. and winner of the american book award, the first tycoon. find books of the year at otb.board. >> economics professor argues
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that the 2008 economic collapse was not unique and solutions can be found from the past. politics and prose bookstore in washington d.c. hosted hour-long event. >> good evening, everyone. my name is conor moran. on behalf of the owners of politics and prose bookstore, welcome tonight. thank you offer company. we have a few housekeeping things. the first is that everyone at ease silence or turn off their cell phones. i don't want carmen to be interrupted this evening. that goes for carmen, too. if you need books after the events they are located in the table at the front of the store. you can have if they are and get your book. because we have these been with us this evening, we have a microphone in the center aisle here and we need you all to ask her questions from the microphone because well, they'll be on tv.
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